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Team Combat Ideas

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What ideas do you folks have for team combat? It doesn't have to be scale Axis vs Allies, and I've only thought up a few scenarios, but I'm sure you guys have flown a lot more than I have and have some great ideas. How about some idea sharing?

1. Red on Blue: basic equal sides with different colored streamers
2. Bomber escort: large plane with multiple streamers escorted by fighters versus interceptors
3. Ramrod: Fighter sweep ahead of bomber. Ramrod launches first, followed after 30 seconds by interceptors. Bomber orbits at end of field for 90 seconds, then enters combat.
4. Ploesti Raid: low altitude unescorted bombers
5. New Guinea Strafers: medium bombers versus the long balloon targets
6. Ship attack (courtesy of my buddy Pat): build a ship on an RC truck frame and have it slowly move around the target area while under attack. Hull and superstructure could me made out of coro quite easily.
7. Balloon busting: tethered balloons as targets.

Pile in here guys!!! What do you guys do for fun combat?

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Post by Bad Dawg »

I've played "Canadian Doubles" a few times. Two pilots against a lone wolf. It started out as a way to practice team tactics. We were looking for a way to heard a 'target' with out cuting each other.

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Post by Jimbo »

How about some no loop combat for club level stuff? No more than half of a loop is allowed or you get points deducted.This would cut way down on midairs.

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Post by sgilkey »

Ed, Brian and I have talked about this a lot and we think the idea of team combat sounds like a lot of fun, so count us as two 'yesses." We like the team-on-team, and fighter-team-protecting-bomber versions. Though it seems like it might be a bit boring for the bomber pilot! I would think the team-on-team would be fairly easy to organize, and a real hoot!

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Once organized, this would be a great demo event to hold at airshows across the country. It would beat the scale Piper cubs they normally have boring holes in the skys between the main events....

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Post by MLaBoyteaux »

I think this is a great idea. I think the bomber escort would be cool if the bomber had to fly down and "strafe" some helium filled tethered ballons while a couple of fighters try to hold off some interceptors. Or, set up a large target area in the field, the bomber (towing 3 or 4 short streamers) has to make X number of circuits before dropping the bombs. If the bomber makes it to the drop zone with streamers intact and hits the target, the interceptors loose!

Like Thojamb says, we think this would be an excellent way to show off some cool combat at fly-ins. Then when the sport pilots ask about it, we tell them about non-competitive sport combat that might be in their area and they outta stop by sometime....


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Post by Serg »

Just as suggestion: Fighters team against another fighter team. Up to 4 pilot in one team. Any cuts of own team streamer provide points to enemy team. Judge should be able count different color streamer separately. Winner determine by team score sum.
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Post by sgilkey »

Mark, you have hit the nail on the head! We were struggling with what to do with the boring role of bomber pilot, but your proposal is brilliant! Have the bomber have some objectives, balloon busting, some other challenge, while the fighter guys duke it out. Now I want to do team combat with a bomber! I think you could do team combat without it having to be scale. Scale would be cooler, of course, but who wants to build a bomber for such an event which has not even caught on yet (other than Ed, whose creative juices apparently overwhelmed him!). You could use an Open-type plane as the "bomber", perhaps an SSC type or a B ship with muffler and 10 inch prop to keep it slow. This sounds fun!

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Post by Jimbo »

It does sound like a great idea, but I've tried the tethered ballons and if there is just a little wind it blows them on the ground. Maybe the ballons I was using were too heavy or not blown up enough. Please let me know if you try it and it works.

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Post by MLaBoyteaux »

Yeah, we've found that the balloons only work if there is very little wind. However, Colonel Kettler has installed dropable bombs in the B-24 which could be used as the objective instead having to hit the balloons. Plus, the lower he goes, the better the odds are that he'll hit the target!


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Post by boiler »

You could use an old trainer or anything else for the bomber. If any team mid-aired the bomer. They lose automatically. This is starting to sound like a great deal of fun.[:)]

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Post by RH »

Invite the paint ball guys over to shoot some "flak" up into the melee.

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Post by Feathers »

We've flown team combat several different ways. The latest was to tape 2 feet of black streamer to the end of different colored 30 foot streamers (I did this at home while rolling them). Put three planes up per team and have them launch and circle on opposite ends of the field. After start combat is called any plane missing the two foot black end has to land. Winner is the team that's still flying at the end. If you time it to five minutes and there is still a plane from each side flying it's a draw. It's fun and much more defensive. It isn't fun if you're the guy cut 20 seconds in though....it's sooooo hard to set up for a landing with all those streamers in the air.

With a blue sky background it's very easy to pick up the colors. However, on an overcast day things get much harder. You really have to pick your targets carefully or you shoot down one of your own guys. It's a lot easier on planes because the sky starts to clear out and might work out really well with the 2548 planes. Spectators can understand and follow what's going on and enjoy the show. I'm sure they'd appreciate the 2548 planes even more than the open ones.
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Post by Ed Kettler »

The bomber guy could get "mission completed points" from surviving the attacks (100 points per streamer left) and points for bombing accuracy (need to work on this a bit).

If you used a triangular tether system, would that keep the balloons off the ground (except in gales, of course)?

We could also work in Terry Harner's long thin balloon strafing into the mix.

Keep the ideas flowing! Anyone building another bomber?

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Post by Serg »

Ground Attacker can play the role (especially if make him slower 0.15 engine instead of 0.25).
I can suggest 1/12 IL10 by VSVaeromodels as candidate): http://scale.rccombat.ru/technic/IL10m/index.htm

Lets schedule the game on October 6-7.
But you have to be prepared, not every fighter can compete in sped with our well-tuned Il10.
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