Just a thought
Moderator: hbartel
Well put Cajun. C class sounds good at first but the savings of using an engine you already have is soon lost and unfortunatly usually the prospective combat pilot along with it.
Lim B has a spec wing span and wing area so the standard is pretty well set. I'm not oppossed to having a more specific spec wing but I'm not too sure it is needed either. As long as span and wing area are set there is little differance in performance. A spec hershey bar wing does make the determination if the wing is legal a lot simpler though.
Lim B has a spec wing span and wing area so the standard is pretty well set. I'm not oppossed to having a more specific spec wing but I'm not too sure it is needed either. As long as span and wing area are set there is little differance in performance. A spec hershey bar wing does make the determination if the wing is legal a lot simpler though.
the best way to get new people into combat is to get them started and hooked in combat is at the club level then let them make there own choise as to what class they fly my self i like fast planes others like to slow it down a bit some likes small planes others like bigger planes. there will Never be a perfect class where noobs can fly along side a seasoned vet in combat and be able preform the same the reason is the experance in flying combat. when 5 new people give combat a try maybe 1 of them will keep on flying combat its not a matter of which class is better its what the flyer wants to fly just my 2 cents worth
Jimbo, I agree totally. There's a lot to be said for just flying combat for the fun of it using low or no tech equipment, whether at the club lever or in an imprompto sortie between friends in the local school yard. High tech, purpose built planes have their place at Open B, SSC, or scale meets but lots of combat is still being flown at the local level just for the fun of it. And I think that's where Limited B needs to make it's stand.
We are trying to get combat reestablished in East Texas here in Nacogdoches by following Limited B rules except we will be requiring a spec wing, probably a 48"x12" hershey bar design with a set thickness. With this concept anyone can still use their creative juices on the fuse and tail components to make their designs as simple or complex as they desire. The planes can then be flown in local combat but also be flown in Lim B meets.
My desire is to hold a local 2-3 hour meet one Sat a month before the sport fliers start flying. My only idea in this is to get more of our local pilots flying combat using inexpensive and easilly built planes that they can also take to Lim B meets if they so choose. I'm optimistic we can get a nice group flying combat here again and hopefully the spec wing will keep the performance level self limiting. I have given up on trying to get guys interested in combat using expensive, high tech equipment. It's an excercise in futility[xx(].
We are trying to get combat reestablished in East Texas here in Nacogdoches by following Limited B rules except we will be requiring a spec wing, probably a 48"x12" hershey bar design with a set thickness. With this concept anyone can still use their creative juices on the fuse and tail components to make their designs as simple or complex as they desire. The planes can then be flown in local combat but also be flown in Lim B meets.
My desire is to hold a local 2-3 hour meet one Sat a month before the sport fliers start flying. My only idea in this is to get more of our local pilots flying combat using inexpensive and easilly built planes that they can also take to Lim B meets if they so choose. I'm optimistic we can get a nice group flying combat here again and hopefully the spec wing will keep the performance level self limiting. I have given up on trying to get guys interested in combat using expensive, high tech equipment. It's an excercise in futility[xx(].
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I think Thaman probably hit the nail on the head the best....you just have to find the niche that works for your area/group of folks...As Jimbo mentioned he and I have run literally the full gamet of combat minus scale and while I don't think either of us would trade a minute of it we just have settled on SpecB for all the reasons Jimbo listed above and it seems to hold the most promise for us in this general area for generating some more interest. The key is to pick something that folks will feel is within their grasp....Jim and I would go to our club and fly our Open B birds getting ready for an event and the guys would give us the oooohs and aaaahs followed promptly by the "Oh I could never do that!?!"....So whether it be SSC, Limited B, some form of Spec class just get the birds flyin' and try to get the Tx in their hands and it'll go from there Good luck!!!!
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Growing combat begins at home. Each of us has to find interested people, or develop them, in order for combat to grow locally, regionally and nationally. As the folks in this thread have pointed out, it is what the locals want to fly that is important. If they want to progress to a higher level, they may have to change equipment.
Be a combat pusher! "Hey you wanta try this? It's a rush!"
Be a combat pusher! "Hey you wanta try this? It's a rush!"
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I've been tinkering with my LimB planes to make them as CHEAP and SIMPLE as possible and I think I've got a design that is about as close to a beginners setup (minus the .40) as you can get. It will be completely done and ready to fly today and I'm thinkin I'll end up about 3.lbs 3.oz with ALL full size componets.
3 full size servos
full size nicad pack
full size 8 chan reciever
I got all excited the other day thinkin I was gonna end up at 2.lb 14.oz because I was weighing it with an old worn out FOX .25. The FOX weighs 7.oz. I just recieved my Magnum .25 that I'm putting on this plane and it weighs 10.8 .oz so I'll be a tad heavier. (of course I need 3.3 anyhow) I think that LimB is gonna be the happy medium for begginners and pros alike. I still think that a Lim C would be great but there is no sense in pushing it If it will die out once beyond club level.
3 full size servos
full size nicad pack
full size 8 chan reciever
I got all excited the other day thinkin I was gonna end up at 2.lb 14.oz because I was weighing it with an old worn out FOX .25. The FOX weighs 7.oz. I just recieved my Magnum .25 that I'm putting on this plane and it weighs 10.8 .oz so I'll be a tad heavier. (of course I need 3.3 anyhow) I think that LimB is gonna be the happy medium for begginners and pros alike. I still think that a Lim C would be great but there is no sense in pushing it If it will die out once beyond club level.
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